Re: [ic] "High traffic list" - ramblings on Interchange

[Andreas Grau <suppressed>]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:58:55 +0100
"Sebastian Kliess" <suppressed> wrote:

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> > Subject: [ic] "High traffic list" - ramblings on Interchange
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> > Next, IC is largely unsupported. If you look in the mailing 
> > list archives, there are tons of serious questions which 
> > remain without answer. The other IRC channel is mostly dead.
> > 
> 
> we are running IC since 2 years without any downtime and we have really no
> open questions - the only open questions I know are silly 

Downtime was not a point in my statement, as far as I remember. I never
questioned the quality of the software.

I have quickly checked the archives: You seem to have never posted a
question, and never seem to have answered one. The former is good for
you (you were never disappointed), the latter bad for the others -
especially when considering that you must have a great know-how
regarding IC.

> 
> > Then, IC is not really documented. Since when I follow IC, 
> > there has been zero visible progress on the docs.
> > 
> 
> that is true - but reading the code helps!

I once learned that "yes, but ..." is not too positive. What's your point ?

Before you can start reading the sources about the HOW, you need to
know WHAT is possible.

> 
> And did you ever read the documentation of systems like websphere or
> vignette? They wrote tons of documentation and you need minimum 6 month to
> be productive. Then you are happy with the IC core documentation.

I think this is irrelevant to my statement about missing or incomplete
documentation. The fact that others have more or less doesn't change my
statement.

> 
> > Take an unsupportive mailing list plus zero docs, and you 
> > come to think that IC is actually a closed-shop solution.
> > 
> 
> maybe the problem is that you compare IC with "shops", for us it is a
> professional application server (and I know Microsoft Commerce Server,
> Websphere, Vignette, Notes, ...)

Maybe the problem is that you read "shop" when I write "closed-shop".
You may want to check wikipedia on this. Actually it means that you
have to be a member of an organisation to participate or benefit.

Congratulations about your wide experience, btw.


I truly don't want to start a flame war. But (sic!) what about my other
points ? The fact that you didn't comment them, does this mean you
agree, or do consider them irrelevant ?

Andreas
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