Re: [ic] Verisign -- please vote with your feet!

[scott martin <suppressed>]

I wish you had postred this yesterday as I did noy know & just 
reghistered a site with them.

Scott Martin

Paul Vinciguerra wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:50:02 -0400, Mike Heins wrote
>
> > Dear Interchange Users,
> >
> > In the nearly seven years this list has existed, I have not often
> > used it as a soapbox. I guess I am now.
> >
> > I have stopped using all Verisign products, period.
> >
> > * Where I once had (either myself or with clients) a hundred or more
> >  domains registered with them, now I have zero. Any time I find someone
> >  registered at Verisign, I immediately suggest a move to another
> >  registrar, and I donate my time to help them do it at my
> >  cost.
> >
> > * I used Thawte since I first heard about them, approximately 1997,
> >  partly because they were not Verisign. When they were bought by
> >  Verisign, I felt they kept some of their integrity, so I kept using
> >  them. At this point, though, I have switched to Comodo and will no
> >  longer renew certificates with Thawte, and will no longer generate 
> > a  CSR for them. And certainly not for the Verisign brand itself.
> >
> > * I wrote a Signio client for Interchange, which eventually became 
> > the  PayFlowPro module. I regret that, and I never recommend PayFlowPro.
> >
> > Many of you may realize I have despised them for years; but they have
> > now gone far beyond the bounds of civilized behavior.
> >
> > If I find anything else which is owned by Verisign, I will stop using
> > it. I will no longer work on any part of Interchange which supports a
> > Verisign product. Though I wouldn't be so insensitive as to do it
> > unilaterally, I will suggest that we remove the Interchange Signio/PayFlowPro
> > module from Interchange, and move it to a separate site or a contrib
> > directory.
> >
> > Verisign obviously believes they are above the law and they believe they
> > don't need to conduct themselves with respect toward other people. They
> > routinely abuse trust by sending promotional email to people who have
> > specifically requested not to receive it.
> >
> > And now the ultimate abuse of trust -- they hijack the Internet; the
> > NXDOMAIN DNS response existed for a reason, and now you won't get it
> > when you request a non-existent .net or .com domain.
> >
> > I no longer consider them trustworthy to sign HTTPS certificates, and
> > have revoked all of their root certs in my browser. I may allow some
> > stores using their certs to sell to me, but I will have to OK the
> > certificate every time it is presented and I will send them feedback
> > that I don't appreciate them supporting pirates.
> >
> > Please don't help Verisign run roughshod over everyone in the
> > world. Please stop using Verisign products.
>
>
> The problem is, at I see it, that Verisign effectively owns the .com and .net
> space. Its unlikely people are going to abandon .coms and .nets over this and
> verisign knows this.  Its been rumored that they are currently recieving $1M+
> / day for planting overture bugs in visitors browsers.  With incentives like
> that, its unlikely its coming down any time soon.  So, the BIND patch solution
> seems to be the only REAL workable solution in the short term.     
>
>
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Mike Heins
>
>
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