Re: [cgiapp] Using CGI::Application and SHTML/SSI pages?

[Michael Peters <suppressed>]

Cees Hek wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:13:04 -0500, Halley, Edward D.
> <suppressed> wrote:
>
> > Halley, Edward D. wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the tips-- I'll look at Template Toolkit but I'm not
> > > particularly fond of templates; it feels like the tail wagging the dog.
> >
> > Michael Peters wrote:
> >
> > > Really? I'm *so* glad that there are good templating solutions out
> > > there. Separating the content from the code is a godsend.
> >
> > That's what CSS and the wrapping HTML are for.  That's why an HTML
> > file which calls on one or more CGIs to render small, simply-
> > formatted lists is preferable (unless the server can't cope).  In my
> > CSS, I can say that any <LI> inside a given <SPAN CLASS="foo">
> > appears in a given style.  Then all my CGI must print is <LI>item 1
> > <LI>item 2 ...  The CGI needs to know no style, no formatting,
> > nothing but a bare <LI>.  It can get more complicated, but not much.
>
>
> This is no different from using templates.  I prefer to keep all the
> HTML in the same place (the templates) regardless of whether it is
> styled using CSS or directly in the HTML.  Your approach would put
> some of the HTML in SSI files, and some of the HTML in your CGI
> scripts.  Regardless of how simple the HTML in your CGI scripts is, it
> still splits things up.  Also, you limit what the desingers can do
> with the layout (unless you are also the designer).  If your code
> provides a list of <LI> items, but the designer wants to put the data
> into 3 columns, can that still be done with CSS?  (I'm not a CSS
> expert, so I'm not sure about that one)

Not to beat an already bludgeoned dead horse, for me, I use templates 
for the same reason that I use Class::DBI. I don't want to have some 
other language spread out inside of my perl code. Whether it's SQL 
(which is only present in small quantities in my Class::DBI model 
classes) or HTML.

--
Michael Peters
Developer
Plus Three, LP


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